Newbie questions
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:13 am
Hi,
I'm new to Ngene (which I really like) so please excuse any silly questions. I have several:
1. I saw in prior posts that using a Bayesian prior parameter distribution (say, the uniform) will work if nothing else is known about a parameter other than the sign. For example, for price it was suggested that a uniform from -1 to 0 be used. Is there any literature or general rules of thumb (ROTs) explaining/describing/discussing the different distributions for different types of variables such as price? Any other suggestions besides the uniform? Any general guidance?
2. I ran a simple design for a tablet computer (memory size in GB; display size in inches; battery life in hours; and price in dollars) which is:
Design
;alts = tab1, tab2
;rows = 16
;block = 2
;eff = (mnl)
;model:
U(tab1) = B0 + B1*memory[16, 32] + B2*display[9.7, 10.1] + B3*battery[10, 14] + B4*price[300, 500, 800] /
U(tab2) = B1*memory + B2*display + B3*battery + B4*price
$
The result was:
Design
Choice situation tab1.memory tab1.display tab1.battery tab1.price tab2.memory tab2.display tab2.battery tab2.price Block
1 32 10.1 10 500 16 9.7 14 300 1
2 32 9.7 10 300 16 10.1 14 800 2
3 32 10.1 10 800 16 9.7 14 300 1
4 16 10.1 14 300 32 9.7 10 800 1
5 32 9.7 14 300 16 10.1 10 800 1
6 32 9.7 14 800 16 10.1 10 300 2
7 16 10.1 14 800 32 9.7 10 300 2
8 16 9.7 10 300 32 10.1 14 800 1
9 16 9.7 14 500 32 10.1 10 500 2
10 32 10.1 10 500 16 9.7 14 500 2
11 16 9.7 10 500 32 10.1 14 500 2
12 16 9.7 14 800 32 10.1 10 300 1
13 16 10.1 10 300 32 9.7 14 800 2
14 16 9.7 10 800 32 10.1 14 300 1
15 32 10.1 14 300 16 9.7 10 500 1
16 32 10.1 14 500 16 9.7 10 500 2
Notice the last three lines. In the last two, no one would pick the second option; in #14, no one would pick the first. How can this be avoided?
3. When a design is created such as the above, Ngene keeps iterating. I apparently have to manually stop it. Why?? Shouldn't there be a setting somewhere that stops it after, say, 1000 iterations?
Any help for this Ngene beginner is appreciated.
Thanks,
Walt
I'm new to Ngene (which I really like) so please excuse any silly questions. I have several:
1. I saw in prior posts that using a Bayesian prior parameter distribution (say, the uniform) will work if nothing else is known about a parameter other than the sign. For example, for price it was suggested that a uniform from -1 to 0 be used. Is there any literature or general rules of thumb (ROTs) explaining/describing/discussing the different distributions for different types of variables such as price? Any other suggestions besides the uniform? Any general guidance?
2. I ran a simple design for a tablet computer (memory size in GB; display size in inches; battery life in hours; and price in dollars) which is:
Design
;alts = tab1, tab2
;rows = 16
;block = 2
;eff = (mnl)
;model:
U(tab1) = B0 + B1*memory[16, 32] + B2*display[9.7, 10.1] + B3*battery[10, 14] + B4*price[300, 500, 800] /
U(tab2) = B1*memory + B2*display + B3*battery + B4*price
$
The result was:
Design
Choice situation tab1.memory tab1.display tab1.battery tab1.price tab2.memory tab2.display tab2.battery tab2.price Block
1 32 10.1 10 500 16 9.7 14 300 1
2 32 9.7 10 300 16 10.1 14 800 2
3 32 10.1 10 800 16 9.7 14 300 1
4 16 10.1 14 300 32 9.7 10 800 1
5 32 9.7 14 300 16 10.1 10 800 1
6 32 9.7 14 800 16 10.1 10 300 2
7 16 10.1 14 800 32 9.7 10 300 2
8 16 9.7 10 300 32 10.1 14 800 1
9 16 9.7 14 500 32 10.1 10 500 2
10 32 10.1 10 500 16 9.7 14 500 2
11 16 9.7 10 500 32 10.1 14 500 2
12 16 9.7 14 800 32 10.1 10 300 1
13 16 10.1 10 300 32 9.7 14 800 2
14 16 9.7 10 800 32 10.1 14 300 1
15 32 10.1 14 300 16 9.7 10 500 1
16 32 10.1 14 500 16 9.7 10 500 2
Notice the last three lines. In the last two, no one would pick the second option; in #14, no one would pick the first. How can this be avoided?
3. When a design is created such as the above, Ngene keeps iterating. I apparently have to manually stop it. Why?? Shouldn't there be a setting somewhere that stops it after, say, 1000 iterations?
Any help for this Ngene beginner is appreciated.
Thanks,
Walt